mamamusings

elizabeth lane lawley's thoughts on technology, academia, family, and tangential topics

Friday, 24 October 2003

we're misbehavin'

I’m delighted to announce the debut of a new weblog on the topic of gender and technology:

misbehaving.net

We’ve got a really amazing group of women participating on this site:

We all believe it’s important to begin changing the public perception of women in the context of technology, and that one of the best ways to do that is to make women’s accomplishments, writings, and contributions more public and visible.

I hope you’ll add the new site to your blogroll and/or aggregator list!

Posted at 12:51 PM in: gender
Trackbacks

TrackBack URL for this entry: http://mamamusings.net/mt/liztrack.cgi/612

Listed below are links to weblogs that reference we're misbehavin':

That's right, the women are smarter from Radio Free Blogistan on October 24, 2003 1:16 PM
Excerpt: David Weinberger echoes Halley Suitt in asking why there are only three women among the top 100 blogs listed at Blogstreet: Halley wonders why maybe 3 of the top 100 bloggers are women: It's clear that the top male bloggers are not denying women their ...
Two views of community. from Live in the Delirious Cool on October 24, 2003 1:57 PM
Excerpt: Onto the blogroll with you both!
Welcome misbehaving.net from McGee's Musings on October 24, 2003 9:51 PM
Excerpt: we're misbehavin' .
I couldn't agree more. from BlogJazz on October 25, 2003 12:25 AM
Excerpt: "We all believe itĚs important to begin changing the public perception of women in the context of technology, and that one of the best ways to do that is to make womenĚs accomplishments, writings, and contributions more public and visible."
Misbehavin' Women from Mike's Digital Laboratory on October 26, 2003 4:42 PM
Excerpt: Along with an incredibly talented group of women from around the world, My friend Liz Lawley has launched a new...
Misbehaving, Outsourcing. from Ross Notes on October 26, 2003 6:47 PM
Excerpt: Liz and others have announced a new blog, misbehaving.net. misbehaving.net is a weblog about women and technology. It's a celebration of women's contributions to computing; a place to spotlight women's contributions as well point out new opportunities ...
Comments
Comment from Shelley on October 24, 2003 1:34 PM (Permalink to Comment)

Well, thanks for nothing.


Comment from Liz on October 24, 2003 1:45 PM (Permalink to Comment)

As I posted on your weblog, Shelley, there are a lot of women who are not authors on the site--it doesn't make them not women, nor does it make them invisible. You're listed on the sidebar, along with a lot of other women for whom I have a great deal of respect and admiration.


Comment from Alex on October 24, 2003 4:48 PM (Permalink to Comment)

What? Am I not a blogger? Am I not... oh, OK, I get it.

Actually, when the Blog Genres group was presenting at AoIR and noted that bloggers are "mostly male," I thought to myself: that's me, all right, mostly male.

What? Am I not a blogger? Am I not... oh, OK, I get it.

Actually, when the Blog Genres group was presenting at AoIR and noted that bloggers are "mostly male," I thought to myself: that's me, all right, mostly male.

I suspect I already know your answer, based upon a previous post (in which you asked the men not to post--and I happily remained silent), but is there a reason that a blog dedicated to gender and technology should consist solely of women? On the site, it actually says "women and technology," but even in that case...


Comment from Shelley on October 24, 2003 5:07 PM (Permalink to Comment)

I pulled my post, as I mentioned in the email to you. It was wrong of me to take personal offense about being excluded from your group. I was just...surprised, and a bit let down.

I will continue to write on technology at my site for what its worth, and even mention women and technology. But I hope that your new group remembers to leave room for the bloodied and tired women who have fought the battles in the trenches. as well as the dignified women in the towers. And I wish you luck.



Comment from KF on October 24, 2003 8:11 PM (Permalink to Comment)

Congratulations, Liz, and the rest of your co-misbehavers, too. It promises to be a fabulous site, and I'll look forward to staying up with it!


Comment from Liz on October 24, 2003 10:06 PM (Permalink to Comment)

Alex-

I wanted misbehaving.net to serve not just a way of disseminating information about gender issues, but also as a way to spotlight women in the tech field in positive ways. That's why the authors are all women...


Comment from hanna on October 24, 2003 11:50 PM (Permalink to Comment)

Congratulations! I think misbehaving.net is a great idea and very much needed! I, for one, will definitely be reading it. Well done!


Comment from Netwoman on October 25, 2003 12:50 PM (Permalink to Comment)

I am glad that you created the site with your co-authors, I think it is much needed. I hope to see your list of women contributing to this body of blog-knowledge expand - I have been searching for women who blog about tech issues, and there are not too many.
By the way, it was good to meet you F2F at AoIR.


Comment from Kevin Walzer on October 26, 2003 5:04 PM (Permalink to Comment)

It's just that by excluding Shelley, you're excluding a practicing woman technologist with impeccable chops and also one of the most eloquent bloggers out there, in favor of a strictly academic focus. Your group blog is impoverished without her perspective. As I say at my own blog, it's like Roman Jakobson excluding Vladmir Nabakov from the Harvard faculty on the grounds that one wouldn't appoint an elephant as a professor of zoology. Or, more aptly, it's like saying Donna Haraway's perspective on women in science is more valuable than Rosalind Franklin's. No, it's not.


Comment from Liz on October 26, 2003 6:46 PM (Permalink to Comment)

It's not a strictly academic group, by any means.

Meg Hourihan, Gina Trapani, and Caterina Fake are all actively working in the tech industry. While I'm an academic now, I have quite a few years of tech work under my belt preceding my time in academia. One of the original invitees, Adina Levin was too busy with her company's software launch to participate this week, but will be on board by next week. My intention was to have balance--age, location, profession.

This is a brand new blog, started by someone who was virtually unknown by most of the world a year ago...it's far from "the Harvard faculty," and it was never intended to represent the sum total of all women's voices and perspectives. The wonderful thing about virtual real estate is that it's not a zero-sum game, and that nobody owns the top of the hill.


Comment from jeneane on October 26, 2003 11:43 PM (Permalink to Comment)

Actually, the wonderful thing is that it's not real estate at all.


Comment from -g. on October 27, 2003 7:23 AM (Permalink to Comment)

That it's not real estate at all is not a WONDERful thing at all.
---------------------------------
I have nothing to contribute to the actual discussion so I'll just pick nits too. I just needed to be noticed.


Liz sipping melange at Cafe Central in Vienna